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#1 Thu 15 July 2010 11:13

mickael tonkeul
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mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

bonjour, je suis nouveau sur le forum
je recherche de l'aide
en effet, j'ai une couche de polygone et une couche de points
ma couche point est géoréférencée en Lambert 2 étendu
mon problème est que je n'arrive pas à superposer les deux couches l'une sur l'autre
quelqu'un connait la réponse
merci pour tout

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#2 Thu 15 July 2010 11:30

Maurice
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

Bonjour
Commencez par vérifier (et nous dire) la projection "intrinsèque" de vos deux couches, par menu Table->Gestion Tables->Modifier structure... et appui sur le bouton "Projection" de la boîte de dialogue
MapInfo superpose "à la volée" des tables de projections différentes...sauf si l'une d'elles est mal projetée !!

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#3 Thu 15 July 2010 12:12

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

salut
en faite ma couche polygone est une corinne land cover et ma couche point est projeté en lambert 2 pour la couche polygone je n'arrive pas a voir sa projection

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#4 Thu 15 July 2010 12:15

Maurice
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

mickael tonkeul a écrit:

... pour la couche polygone je n'arrive pas a voir sa projection


Ce n'est donc probablement pas une couche "native" MapInfo (composée d'au moins 4 fichiers, *.dat, *.id, *.map, *.tab)
Commencez par menu Fichier->Enregistrer Table sous... en choisissant la même projection que les points...

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#5 Thu 15 July 2010 12:28

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

il y a les 4 fichiers mapinfo;
j'ai tout de meme mis dans la meme projection mais pas moyen de les superposé elles sont toujours distantes l'une de l'autre

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#6 Thu 15 July 2010 13:18

Maurice
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

Piste:
- exportez (les deux) en MIF/MID
- lire les *. MIF avec Wordpad et nous montrer les (environ) 20 premières lignes de ces deux *.MIF
- attendre le diagnostic... smile

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#7 Thu 15 July 2010 13:51

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

bon je vous donne les fichiers .mif des deux couches
pour la couche polygone:
28.625,49.6026,3227,0,0,0,0,0,F
432470.69,3827.23,1217,1216,111,1,11,0,F
387019.25,3248.38,93,92,112,1,11,0,F
222433.25,2336.19,277,276,121,1,12,0,F
293881.75,3338.27,1713,1711,122,1,12,0,F
327903.97,2749.71,2618,2601,124,1,12,0,F
94677.84,1618.6,780,779,131,1,13,0,F
170182.2,1820.45,5049,4963,132,1,13,0,F
863103,4531.46,3269,3236,133,1,13,0,F
594101,3310.91,3381,3347,141,1,14,0,F
505804.94,3892.11,2793,2776,142,1,14,0,F
349.164,232.972,4,3,211,2,21,0,F
2169397.8,15498.34,3502,3467,221,2,22,0,F
497769.34,4163.86,5639,5542,222,2,22,0,F
30222.87,856.699,8,7,231,2,23,0,F
1055191.9,8854.13,7,6,242,2,24,0,F
214249.31,3426.96,39,38,243,2,24,0,F
35293160,65659.52,9,8,311,3,31,0,F
329458.81,4135.47,19,18,312,3,31,0,F
205171.47,2781.36,25,24,313,3,31,0,F

pour la couche points:
1,"06039500","SAONE A OUROUX SUR SAONE","21","OUROUX SUR SAONE","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Saône","NON","","","FRDR1807a","798417","2193393","saone_ouroux.xls",20100706
2,"04017000","Arroux","71","LAIZY","AELB","RCS","ESU","Arroux","","","","","741740.4","2213550","",20100706
3,"04020010","Arroux","71","RIGNY-SUR-ARROUX","AELB","RCS","ESU","Arroux","","","","","730072.72","2171808.6","",20100706
4,"04023130","Somme","71","CRESSY-SUR-SOMME","AELB","RCS","ESU","Somme","","","","","718166.64","2191776.34","",20100706
5,"04023700","Aron","58","VERNEUIL","AELB","RCS","ESU","Aron","","","","","694595","2206465","",20100706
6,"04025100","Nièvre","58","COULANGES-LES-NEVERS","AELB","RCS","ESU","Nièvre","","","","","666435.9","2225020","",20100706
7,"04026000","Loire","58","NEVERS","AELB","RCS","ESU","Loire","","","","","662030","2220630","",20100706
8,"6720","Bèze","21","Marandeuil","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Bèze","","","","FRDR654","827617","2265256","",20100706
9,"110110","La Brizotte","21","Auxonne","AERMC","RCO","ESU","La Brizotte","","","","FRDR653","831054","2247650","",20100706
10,"36970","Meuzin","21","Corgengoux","AERMC","RCS/RCO","ESU","Meuzin","","","","FRDR609","802298","2223781","",20100706
11,"16000","Ouche","21","Crimolois","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Ouche","","","","FRDR646","810395","2255555","",20100706
12,"16500","Ouche","21","Echenon","AERMC","RCS","ESU","Ouche","","","","FRDR646","823340","2239090","",20100706
13,"14990","Ouche","21","Plombières les Dijon","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Ouche","","","","FRDR647","799774","2262616","",20100706
14,"17070","Saône","21","Seurre","AERMC","RCS","ESU","Saône","","","","FRDR1806d","813433","2225705","",20100706
15,"13800","Tille","21","Champdotre","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Tille","","","","FRDR649","824577","2246298","",20100706
16,"12055","Tille","21","Til Chatel","AERMC","RCS","ESU","Tille","","","","FRDR651","815442","2283228","",20100706
17,"17000","Vouge","21","Aubigny en Plaine","AERMC","RCS/RCO","ESU","Vouge","","","","FRDR645","815644","2241036","",20100706
18,"36070","Cloux","21","Meursault","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Cloux","","","","FRDR10272","785989","2221972","",20100706
19,"41700","Brenne","71","Sens sur Seille","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Brenne","","","","FRDR600","825780","2198655","",20100706
20,"38300","Corne","71","Saint Rémy","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Corne","","","","FRDR607","789895","2197255","",20100706
21,"37300","Dheune","71","Saint Martin en Gâtinois","AERMC","RCO","ESU","Dheune","","","","FRDR608","804135","2219425","",20100706

merci

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#8 Thu 15 July 2010 14:15

NicolasGeorge
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

Heu, ça ressemble plus à des MID, ça?

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#9 Thu 15 July 2010 14:32

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

désolé je me suis trompé en prenant les dossiers
je recommence
pour la couche polygone:
Version 450
Charset "WindowsLatin1"
Delimiter ","
Index 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9
CoordSys Earth Projection 3, 1002, "m", 0, 46.8, 45.898918889, 47.69601444, 600000, 200000 Bounds (-864407, -1131785) (3440473, 3294928)
Columns 9
  AREA Float
  PERIMETER Float
  CLC Integer
  CLC_ID Integer
  CLC3 Integer
  CLC1 Integer
  CLC2 Integer
  ORIGINE Integer
  split Logical
Data

Region  3
  9
834333.186 272145.078
834395.067 272104.742
834415.005 272099.7
834428.07 272081.251

pour la couche points:
Version 450
Charset "WindowsLatin1"
Delimiter ","
CoordSys Earth Projection 3, 1002, "m", 0, 46.8, 45.898918889, 47.69601444, 600000, 200000 Bounds (-864407, -1131785) (3440473, 3294928)
Columns 17
  n__de_ligne_ Float
  Code_du_point_de_prélévement_ Char(19)
  Nom_du_point_de_prélévement Char(46)
  département_de_situation_du_po Char(10)
  Commune_de_situation_du_point_ Char(86)
  Origine_des_données_de_qualité Char(5)
  Réseau_d_obtention_des_données Char(8)
  Origine_du_prélèvement Char(3)
  Nom_du_cours_d_eau_si_ESU Char(27)
  AEP_________________Oui_Non Char(3)
  Fréquence_de_prélévement Char(1)
  Date_du_prélèvement_le_plus_an Char(1)
  code_de_la_masse_d_eau_représe Char(16)
  X__Coordonnées_Lambert_RGF93 Char(10)
  Y__Coordonnées_Lambert_RGF93_ Char(10)
  nom_du_fichier_d_archivage_des Char(33)
  date_de_mise_à_jour_des_donnée Date
Data

voila
j'espère que vous allez m'aider
merci

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#10 Thu 15 July 2010 14:49

Maurice
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

C'est mieux mais il manque quelques lignes au MIF des points (qui a beaucour d'attributs !!) pour que soient décrits quelques points par leurs X, Y qui eux seuls nous diront où est le problème
Pour les polygones on voit que les coordonnées du premier point sont bien en Lambert 2 Centre... si on est bien du côté de RENEVE (21522)

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#11 Thu 15 July 2010 15:00

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

je te rajoute la suite de la couche points
Point 798417 2193393
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 741740.4 2213550
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 730072.72 2171808.599
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 718166.641 2191776.34
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 694594.999 2206464.999
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 666435.901 2225020
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 662030 2220630
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 827617.001 2265255.999
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)
Point 831054 2247649.999
    Symbol (34,16711935,9)

de plus ce sont les coordonnées de la bourgogne normalement

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#12 Thu 15 July 2010 15:12

Maurice
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

Vu
Les points sont en fait en Lambert  Carto (et pas Centre !!)
La clause CoordSys du MIF est fausse
Remplacer
CoordSys Earth Projection 3, 1002, "m", 0, 46.8, 45.898918889, 47.69601444, 600000, 200000 Bounds (-864407, -1131785) (3440473, 3294928)
Par
CoordSys Earth Projection 3, 1002, "m", 0, 46.8, 45.898918889, 47.69601444, 600000, 2200000 Bounds (-864407, -1131785) (3440473, 3294928)
Ré-importer le MIF corrigé...et tout devrait rentrer dans l'ordre

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#13 Thu 15 July 2010 15:17

mickael tonkeul
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Re: mapinfo 9.0 probleme georeferencement

merci c cool ca marche mes deux cartes sont bien superposées
merci pour tout

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